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Galatians 4:6 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
*Citations and corrections are made at the bottom of this article
This Article is to inform and not to attempt to damage a person’s faith. We need to learn to rely more on God and trust in his guidance, in all truth, it is my hope that those concerned, upon reading the facts presented here would not go along with Jacob Prasch suggestion, and see that Clifford Hill and David Noakes are not worthy of our support.
Instead that we need to bring this to light put into question the ministry of Clifford Hill and David Noakes and not accept at face value of CCM, ISSACHAR Ministries, Moggerhanger House, etc.
Jeremiah 17:5-9 5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord. 6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is. 8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
9 The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked: who can know it?
When writing a critical report about Jacob Prasch from Moriel Ministries, it is no surprise it would result in a reaction.
Jacob is known in church meetings and conferences to address his critics by using public ridicule such as a “loon, wacko, mentally retarded and a moron who is doing the work of Satan”. Any person can think of any critic in a negative way turning what they say or write into a personal issue and taking the focus and the attention away from the facts presented.
What about Love? Loving Jacob and Moriel does not mean engaging or encouraging them in their error but to oppose openly any compromise that is leading many to accommodate any ecumenical activity, no matter if they do speak out against ecumenism by word, but do not show it by deed. The intent of the article is to bring to light some of the issues concerning Jacob Prasch, Clifford Hill and David Noakes; the problem is Jacob Prasch is not discerning those that are in the camp who are ecumenical.
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How did this issue come to my attention?
Moggerhanger Park came to my attention after two e-mails that I received concerning a “prophecy” given by David Noakes, that originated from Moriel Ministries.
Jacob Prasch gives his full endorsement and support for Prophetic Word Ministries, Clifford Hill (who is seen with former Archbishop of Canterbury Rev, Rowan Williams, who is a druid and a friend of the Pope) and David Noakes.
*Three other ecumenical groups are listed on Moriels website such as Christian Voice and Clifford Hill, and Reachout Trust, to note Reachout Trust supported Hope 2008, and Reachout Trust was also opposed by Alan Franklin and also stated by Jacob that Reachout trust is “an important apologetics ministry that evangelises cults. Doug , possibly the leading UK apologist”,
*Citation made at the bottom of this article
I find it suspicious people claiming to have prophecies as Moriel does and expect us to accept them at face value; I believe it is always wise to follow the instructions given to us in the Bible, 1 John 4:1 to test the spirits.
David Noakes, who gave a prophecy, is an advisor for ISSACHAR Ministries very much rooted in Moggerhanger Park who is in partnership with the interfaith/ecumenical Hope Together,
I believe some messages that are from God that we are given are not for who they are intended to be for, but it is my belief it can mean two things, that the prophecy is about God’s judgement on those who know the truth but are themselves compromising and for the body of Christ rather than an entire nation.
The Bible teaches that the wicked have already been reserved for the wrath of God Job 21:30, if God would judge anyone it will be those who claim to belong to God, 1 Peter 4:17.
My question is, why all the distractions with prophecy which is taking our focus away from the Vatican? Prophecy is already revealed in the Scriptures. We see how current events in the world today indicate that Jesus is soon to return, that aside the same watchmen, messianic and discernment ministries themselves are being flirtatious with the trappings of ecumenical deceit. They have blind spots; this gives me grave doubts about Clifford Hill and David Noakes when looking at their history.
So what is Moggerhanger House Park Trust?
Moggerhanger House has a rich history of Puritanism, from John Bunyan (1628-1688), John Newton (1725-1807) to Lord Shaftesbury, it has since moved away from its Puritan roots into “The Park” itself is ecumenical. In the modern age, CCM (Contemporary Christian Ministry) was formed in 1993 to 2010 by Clifford and Monica Hill. According to ISSACHAR “the Centre for Contemporary Ministry became the lead residential ministry at Moggerhanger Park and set the groundwork for the formation of Moggerhanger Park Ltd, to run the site but although it continued to run an extensive programme of teaching and evangelistic meetings in many parts of Britain most of its ministry was national rather than local. It formed Clapham Connections, Transform-UK, The Christian Workplace Forum (later to become Transform Work UK) and The Thornton Institute for Leadership and Business Ethics.”
Clifford Hill was the founder of the Newham Community Renewal Programme, Prophetic Word Ministries, Prophecy Today Magazine, British Church Growth Association and C & M Ministries Trust, this
was officially formed as an independent charity in 1993, although it
had been operating as a ministry under the umbrella of Prophetic Word Ministries (PWM) trust since the early 1980s.
Our CCM Trustee, Yemi Adedeji, serves as a leader of the EA One People Commission (Ecumenical as stated below) and through his connection we at CCM are committed to working to build unity within the multi-ethnic British Church of the 21st Century!
After the connection was made with Yemi and Clifford the opportunity to explore “Black Church in White Space” was introduced by Yemi, as the then newly appointed CCM Trustee, at the Christian Resources Exhibition at Sandown, Esher in May 2008.
CCM have been tracking with the main BMC leaders since 2008, and this interview between Jonathan Oloyede and Yemi Adedeji looks at the CCM distinctive in seeking to bring together Multi-Ethnic Church in the UK.
Who are Jonathan Oloyede and Yemi Adedeji?
Some background information, Jonathan Oloyede and Yemi Adedeji.
Rev Israel Oluwole Olofinjana who is part of an ecumenical group wrote:
Since around the 1970s till the present, there have been various organisations or agencies working towards partnership between black and white Churches. The first of such was the founding of the Zebra Project in 1975 by Paul Chairman, a Methodist minister. This project functioned till around the 1990s when it was disbanded. The brilliance of the Zebra Project before its demise was the fact that it created platforms through meetings and conferences for black and white Church leaders to meet. Working in connection with the Zebra Project and also with the British Council of Churches (now Churches Together in Britain and Ireland) was the Conference for Christian Partnership (CCP) which was established in the 1980s. CCP’s work created a meeting place for black and white Christian leaders as well as encouraging the sharing of buildings between black and white Churches. The 1980s also witnessed the formation of Center for black and white Christian partnership in Birmingham (now part of Queens Foundation for Ecumenical Theological Education). The first director was the late Bishop Patrick Kalilombe — a Roman Catholic from Malawi.
Perhaps one of the most significant developments in the 1980s relating to the working together of black and white Churches was the formation of the West Indian Evangelical Alliance (WIEA) in 1984. Through the visionary instrument of the late Guyanese missionary to Britain, Philip Mohabir and others such as Clive Calver, the then general director of the Evangelical Alliance and Dave Tomlinson, one of the key House Church leaders in the 1980s, WIEA was initiated to establish links between black and white Churches. One of the visions that led to the establishment of WIEA was the recognition that British Evangelicalism through the House Churches was growing at a time when the Black Majority Churches were also experiencing growth, but they were not aware of each other or working together therefore WIEA was established to seek to bridge the gap. WIEA worked with the Evangelical Alliance in doing this and to a certain extent there were partnerships that began to emerge between black and white church leaders. WIEA changed its name in 1989 to Afro-Caribbean Evangelical Alliance and finally in 1991 it changed its name to the African and Caribbean Evangelical Alliance (ACEA) to recognise the growing African Churches. ACEA was not only significant in building bridges between black and white Churches working together, but was also important in fostering relationships between the Caribbean and African Churches.
It was a shame that after about 28 years due to lack of finances and other factors, ACEA disbanded. For many practitioners and commentators, the question has always been what comes next after ACEA? Part of this question has also been what organisation or agency will continue the work of unity among black and white Churches? Obviously there is the work of Churches Together in Britain and Ireland (CTBI) but some evangelical Churches are not comfortable with some of the Church membership of CTBI therefore they might not sign up to be a part of it. Two organisations seem to have filled the gap for some of these evangelical Churches and these are, the Street Pastors initiative and Global Day of Prayer Movement. Both started in the year 2000s and have managed to attract black and white Churches working together. The reason for their success in achieving this unity in my opinion has been twofold, firstly, the cross-cultural skills of the people who lead this initiatives. Both Rev Les Isaac and Dr Jonathan Oloyede are excellent leaders who are well equipped in bringing people of diverse cultures together. Secondly, is the fact that these initiatives are not operating as institutional ecumenism but are rather achieving ecumenism through mission. This makes them very appealing to any Christian who wants to get involved in God’s mission.
It seems to me that this sort of missional ecumenism is the way forward for black and white Church partnership and this is increasing growing at grass root level through other mission initiatives such as foodbanks, school pastors and so on. While missional ecumenism is definitely important, I think there is still the need for ongoing conversations between different denominations or in this case black and white Church leaders. One body that seems to be achieving the latter point and that have continued from where ACEA left off is the One People Commission of the Evangelical Alliance. The ecumenical credentials of its director, Rev Yemi Adedeji is that he is an ordained Anglican minister as well as an ordained African Pentecostal pastor (working within the Redeemed Christian Church of God). The vision of the One People Commission is to see the UK Church in all its vibrant ethnic diversity united as one and this is reflected in the Church leaders involved:
- Rev Kingsley Appaigyei, senior pastor of Trinity Baptist Church
- Bishop Eric Brown, administrative Bishop of the New Testament Church of God
- Bishop John Francis, founder and senior pastor of Ruach ministries
- Rev John Glass, general superintendent of Elim Pentecostal Church
- Pastor Argu Irukwe, Chairman of the RCCG UK and senior pastor of Jesus House
- Dr Tani Omideyi, senior minister of Love and Joy ministries in Liverpool
- Rev Siew Huat Ong, senior pastor of the Chinese Church in London
- Manoj Raithatha, national co-ordinator of South Asian Forum
- Rev Mike Talbot, vicar of Emmanuel Church Northwood
Other Church leaders who have been part of this journey includes Dr Tayo Adeyemi, senior pastor of New Wine Church in Woolwich, Jonathan Edwards, General Secretary of the Baptist Union of Great Britain (BUGB), Rev Dr Paul Jinadu, General Overseer of New Covenant Church, Rev Dr Hugh Osgood, senior pastor of Corner Stone Christian Centre, Roger Forster, founder of Icthus Christian Fellowship, Bishop Wayne Malcolm, senior pastor Christian Life City, David Shosanya, regional minister of London Baptist Association (LBA), Rev John Partinghton, national leader Assemblies of God Britain and a host others. The work of One People Commission is a welcome idea and one hopes that it will be used to diversify the structures and governance of the Evangelical Alliance.
Source: https://israelolofinjana.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/church-unity-what-happened-after-acea/
Remember Rev Yemi Adedeji is that he is an ordained Anglican minister as well as an ordained African Pentecostal pastor (working within the Redeemed Christian Church of God) and part of the leadership team for Hope Together.
The RCCG runs Festival of Life in London, Here is a video exposing the compromise with Prime Minister David Cameron who is seen bowing before a Sikh god and advocating for pro-same sex marriage and supportive of homosexual rights, who was accepted and well received at the RCCG, Festival of Life in London.
“CCM believe that there is always a great danger of being “purpose-driven” for the Lord but not “presence-shaped” by Him. Here at Moggerhanger, we believe passionately that both truths need to meet.”
CCM speak about purpose-driven being dangerous but then do not take issue with mystics and those who push for contemplative prayer. Prophets and Seers, who are Gnostics like one such woman they listed running her event at Moggerhanger House states “Therefore you will find two expressions of “presence-shaped” gatherings that meet monthly at the Park.
Please refer to His Fragrance for details. The Glory Gatherings occur on the last Friday of every month, and there are usually two annual Conferences in April and October.”
The speaker of the conference is Michele Grandfield who totally pushes for mystical experiences; this woman promotes soaking, visualisation and an emotional experientialist, etc.
In the audio from the video, Michèle Grandfield – Carriers of the Fire – Llanelli, Friday 3rd October 2014, shows they are no different to John Crowder, Patricia King, Joshua Mills, Bill Johnson, etc. We know from the scriptures 1) Women are not to be teachers of spiritual issues as instructors of the word, 2) Women should learn to be submissive under male leadership.
Glory Cloud and Glitter Hoax Exposed.
These so-called The Glory Gatherings are nothing more than a fad promoted by a woman who claims to be influenced directly by the holy spirit.
Michele Grandfield’s transformation, reformation, kingdom nation is nothing more than the next thing from the Pensacola movement. This woman also promotes Elijah list’s own mystic Kathie Walters at 1:41 in the video below, even at 1:52 Michele Grandfield supports women pastors who can be guided by Angels and impartations.
Michele Grandfield is promoting occultism and mystical practices that are bringing in deception in the name of Christ. The Elijah list also has featured the following well-known names amongst the new generation of mystics, these are as follows, Che Ahn, Rory and Wendy Alec, John and Carol Arnott, Heidi Baker, Jim and Lori Bakker, Mike Bickle, Wes and Stacey Campbell, Kim Clement, Lou Engle, Francis Frangipane, James & Michal Ann Goll, Bill Hamon, Rodney Howard-Browne, Israel Relief Fund, Cindy Jacobs, Bill Johnson, Bob & Bonnie Jones, Rick Joyner, Patricia King, Joshua and Janet Mills, Myles Munroe, Chuck Pierce, Paula Price, Alberto and Kimberly Rivera, Dutch Sheets, Jason Upton, C. Peter Wagner, David and Kathie Walters, Barbara Yoder.
A charity that is supported by Moggerhanger House, the Filling Station is an ecumenical project that aims to get churches in rural areas across the UK to come together regardless of denomination.
What is The Filling Station?
The Filling Station is a contemporary vehicle for bringing Christian renewal and evangelism to the UK. Our Biblical mandate is from Psalm 114: 8 ‘Who turned the rock into a pool, the hard rock into springs of water.’ We see the ‘pools’ described here as places of deep spiritual refreshment for the existing church bringing water into the hard dry areas. The ‘hard rock into springs’ represents the new spiritual life that occurs through evangelism.
On the surface, this may appear to be biblical but it is superficial, Psalm is speaking of two things, Israel’s deliverance from Egypt from the bondage of slavery and our own deliverance from the bondage of the world and the yoke of sin, the rock is Christ, even though new spiritual life happens through spiritual rebirth, this can only be done as Paul says in Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Where the filling station fails to do this is by pushing for ecumenical unity, running programmes and events for community initiatives is not the preaching of the gospel that Paul had in mind,
More to come.
Foot Note
Correction to this article was made, as it maybe understud that Cristian Voice supported Hope 2008 this has been changed, as it does not imply Christian Voice was supported hope 2008, mearly Reachout Trust who supported hope 2008.
Two other ecumenical groups such as Christian Voice and Reachout Trust who supported Hope 2008, and was opposed by Alan Franklin,
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