Francis Chan Furthering the Apostate Agenda and Doctrinal Heresy
Once an ecumenical preacher now converting to Roman Catholicism, several years ago I had written warning against Francis Chan and his push towards the catholic mystic and gnostic practices and the promotion of monastic teachers, only recently had Francis Chan had accepted the teachings contained within roman catholic dogma around the hypostatic union.
I noted looking back that Chan was only supporting unification with the Roman Catholic Church in new york at Together 2016 https://www.christianpost.com/news/together-2016-1m-christians-francis-chan-hillsong-united-pope-francis-will-pray-for-revival-this-saturday-interview.html
This whole exercise was only used to move the evangelical church in the USA to have closer ties and unity under Romes Authority to further there counter reformation agenda in undoing what was done when we seperated from the church of rome, this has included names like Hillsong United, Kari Jobe, Francis Chan, Lecrae, Passion, Crowder, Kirk Franklin, Ravi Zacharias, Jeremy Camp, Andy Mineo, Michael W. Smith, Lauren Daigle, Christine Caine, Mark Batterson, Tony Evans, Matthew West, Jo Saxton, Mike Kelsey, Casting Crowns, John K. Jenkins Sr., Josh McDowell, Luis Palau, Tasha Cobbs, Lacey Sturm, Trip Lee, Samuel Rodriguez, Jennie Allen, Christine D’Clario, Matt Maher (*Roman Catholic), Sammy Wanyonyi, Lindsey Nobles, and others.
and most notably the radical evangelist managed to rally together believers from different denominations and backgrounds to stand in unity. He celebrated that Southern Baptists, Hispanic organizations, African-American churches, and even Pope Francis will all be a part of Together 2016.
The whole purpose of the event was for this “As we were planning this vision, the prayer was always: ‘We want to have the largest Jesus gathering in America’s history,”
I had warned in the past that this would lead to an insurgency and a rebellion to the scriptures to lead many away from the authority of the text into accepting traditions that do not adhere to the Bible, I had noted that is is a journey that leads many down the path to a revival of many evangelical converting into roman catholicism itself, the end game is to get people to accept the catholic eucharist that is central to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and anyone who stands in there way are often marginalized as being called an extremist or guilty of being told that you are committing the sin of idolatry.
This has resulted in men like Francis Chan who has accepted the dogma and doctrine of the Roman Catholic Eucharist, that proves my point that evangelicalism today is a deadly poison because at the heart of this is corruption from those who want to be addressed as pastors and church leaders of various forms.
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/megachurch-evangelical-pastor-preaches-eucharistic-real-presence
Francis Chan says “I didn’t know that for the first 1,500 years everyone saw Communion as the literal body and blood of Christ.”
Francis Chan is historically inaccurate and is possibly uneducated on what was taught about the mass this teaching was never accepted before Pope Julian I that was re-enforced by the Roman Catholic Church Fathers and not the Early Church Fathers to cherry-pick what teachers would back there belief in the Roman Catholic Dogma of the Eucharist and its teachings about Christ Literal presence in the species of bread if you want to know more about the history of the Eucharist please refer to my article on Transubstantiation.
http://ukapologeticslibrary.net/romes-doctrine-of-transubstantiation-refuted/
Francis Chan had soon forgotten how the church of Rome treated decenters and what they regarded as heretics, that had sort to condemn them to death by burning them to the state because they had rejected the Dogma of the Eucharist and deemed that the last supper teachings of christ were a matter of symbolic and memorial representation of death and resurrection of Christ as a one-time sacrificial act.
Rome’s position does not change part of the problem is when the churches take a socialist position rooted in Karl Marx and not a biblical one, its fixation is on charitable works and not on doctrine we walk away from important truths that bind us to Christs through his teachings in the Bible alone and not within the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church if our faith is subject to the mass that is central to the Roman Catholic Faith, there is no more assurance for salvation, the biblical teaching of assurance is rejected, we then have to accept all religious teachings as equally valid to the Bible itself.
Fairly recently I was emailed this email did not state what my alleged error is with regards to the content of the website but has made personal accusations against me and not necessarily given one clear example other than defending the position of the Roman Catholic Church, I will brake this down as I believe this person is hiding behind a fake email that was created as this person was not looking for a response, this said:
Servant of Jesus
abcd@hotmail.com
5.173.144.9
Dear Sir or Madame, Why are you claiming, that you seemingly want to help people, coming out of the dangerous sects and cite the “Gospel”, if you do not mind an idolatric names as written down your website? Mantra, by which it i powered, is nothing more as praising to Hare Krishna (a person, not God) by the members of his sect, but it is also included as own to some masonic lodges and to “techniques” used by the New Age movement members. Is it not being careful enough, or rather it is a…hypocrisy?
There is no clear evidence that I have advocated anything that relates to Ishkon (Hare Krishna) or seems to confuse the fact that I had never advocated for freemasonry but had exposed it, leaving the alleged accusation of hypocrisy is nothing more than contradictory, from the rest of this person text.
Reading the “About” section confirms well, that it is unfortunately the last one. Because you claim to not only reveal the truth but also preaching apologetics,
I wonder if the poster would be careful enough to define the difference between polemics and apologetics, there was no examples as to what it is I had written that was contrary to scripture, the last section in the about us page stipulates
“We totally reject – as a false unity – ecumenism, Multi-Faith and do not conform to a non-evangelical version of Christianity (“So Called Believers e.g. Sunday Christians”), nor in having a different doctrine of salvation and a basis of doctrinal authority other than the Bible. “
Most conservative evangelicals I speak to would have no problem with that statement it would appear that this person is a Roman Catholic who has taken exception to this statement and cannot be a bad thing.
while in fact you want to be a project independent from the Holy Romancatholic Church, the only estabilised by the Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Messiah. So thus you are remaining also independent from…truth. And from God, on Who’s name you are pleading. There is no truth, when someone will not first truly want to forgive from the depth of the heart all wounds and all hurts to other people and to stop escaping the truth said by own conscience. To stand in truth abot himself or helself in front of Jesus through His servant priest in the holy confession sacrament to receive the Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth and of True Love.
This statement is everything you would expect from a Catholic who stands by the traditions of the church what he calls truth, this person believes the holy spirit that forgiveness solely within the sacrament of the eucharist, is sadly blinded by the traditions of the church and does not adhere to the traditions of the apostles.
There are clear errors within this person’s statement that he got from John 20:23 “If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained,” (John 20:23), is out of context
When reading the full context it says the opposite.
“When therefore it was evening, on that day, the first day of the week, and when the doors were shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst, and said to them, “Peace be with you.” 20 And when He had said this, He showed them both His hands and His side. The disciples therefore rejoiced when they saw the Lord. 21 Jesus therefore said to them again, “Peace be with you; as the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 “If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained,” (John 20:19-23).
the priest has no authority when it comes to confession to offer forgiveness on behalf of Christ to who he will, forgiveness is automatically given because the context is sins already had been forgiven in the past tense and so a priest does not need to offer forgiveness to pronounce what Christ has already said, the Bible teaches us that it is only by Christ who we receive forgiveness from.
In other words, Christ is our only true high priest.
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5);
“For this reason he is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance” (Hebrews 9:15);
“It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us” (Romans 8:34).
This person then goes on to say.
And who never wanted and still does not want to be obedient to the Romancatholic Church? Yes, satan. Because, as well said R.I.P. father Gebrielle Amorth, the exorcist of the Vatican, “the devil also believes in God, he only does not want to practise [His rules]”. Yes, the devil believes in God much more than many people, claiming they believe as well, and is more obedient to Him when He wishes him to espape and leave someone alone than people who want to “stay independent” from the Catholic Church.
This is one bold statement to say that Satan lives within those who are outside the church, its quite a remarkable resemblance to whom the scribes and Pharisees accused Jesus of the same who they called Jesus a devil because he was not of them, the Bible says in 1 peter 1:20-21 no scripture is open to anyone private and personal interpretation this statement from peter does not reinforce the need that we should be under the authority of the church, in other words, 2 Timothy 3:16-17 all scripture is God-breathed the spirit reveals truth through the scriptures itself and is enough for instruction in the things of God, at the whole body of the bible contains truth solely in the text of scripture.
Satan has a way of using Rome to deceive many in a very clever and cunning way, yes there are half truths in that statement Satan Also believes in God, the bible does teach us this, but this person’s source is not the bible it is Gebrielle Amorth, there priestly authority, so who is Gebrielle Amorth, he was the Vatican’s Exorcist in Chief, what the person omits to note is that the Vatican’s Exorcist in Chief states The Devil is lurking in the very heart of the Roman Catholic Church,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/7416458/Chief-exorcist-says-Devil-is-in-Vatican.html
The question then if this partial truth that the Devil lives within the heart of the RCC then why would I listen to satan? as I had stated this person had contradicted the whole statement written to me, it is obviously that this person is not listening to some truth that it is Satan who is running the RCC, who he claims the antichrist is waging war against the Holy See when it is the spirit of antichrist who is not waging war against the “holy see” when the Holy See is being used by a spiritual antichrist to keep many trapped in Romanism and to lead many away from the scriptures.
Because who is not obedient to its rules and hierarchy, is not obedient to God Himself, as the church is His Mystical Body. In which is Alive Jesus Christ in the Tabernacle and in the Blessed Sacrament. Bless you, wishing you to come back to God. To gain real faith to have the Holy Spirit in your hearts. And make the will of God, discerned every day. Servant of Jesus.
The response above is nothing more than rooted in tradition, Paul teaches us that the way we are saved from sin, to understand the gospel we must realise that we are all sinners and what that means. It is through the knowledge of the law, the book of Hebrews that remedies this through his onetime blood sacrifice to end all other sacrificial offerings, what does not justify us is anything we do to win Gods favor to appease him with all piety, anything that relates to external religious practices this includes Popish sacraments that relate to the hypo-static Union, Romans 3 teaches that none of us are righteous or good enough, because we have all sinned and contain within the man the corruption of the flesh, resulting in God’s wrath upon all the world, John 3:36 that requires us to believe in the Truth.
[pp.128] Paul Exhibits the grace and glory of the Divine way of Salvation. “God,” he declares, “hath set forth,” Jesus Christ, “to be a propitiation through faith in His blood that sins have passed.”
The scriptures make it clear that the penal substitutionary atonement teaching that is according to John’s gospel, it was Christ who took the whole wrath of God that was laid for the world on himself, he took our nature and offering himself as the scapegoat so that we did not need to be punished on the basis of sins that we had committed, nor does anything need to be done on our part to obtain salvation, the Bible says that Christ had laid the iniquity of us all on the cross, it is this teaching we have the foundation in Christ who is our righteousness necessary for the remission of sins.
Scriptures teach us that Salvation is to be received on the basis of faith alone after faith works are attributed to faith for spiritual growth and not on the basis of salvation, [pp.140] It has often alleged by Roman Catholic writers that the Protestant doctrine of Justification by faith makes good works of no value and militates against holy living. The council denounced Luther’s teaching on this subject as “a blasphemy of the enemy of good works.” But nothing could be more unwarranted than such as accusation. “What shall we say then?” cries Paul, anticipating such an objection, “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein?”
One of the faults of Roman Catholic doctrine is that to a large extent it confuses Justification with Sanctification. Rome’s doctrine of the way in which a sinner finds acceptance with God is neither Justification, in Pauline sense of that term, nor yet is it Sanctification; it is a strange mixture of both, Justification declared the Council of Trent, “is not remission of sins merely, but also the sanctification and renewal of the inward man.” In Protestant doctrine, which is based on the teaching of the New Testament, the two are carefully distinguished. We are justified by faith alone, but every man who is justified is also quickened into newness of life.
More unfounded accusations are given with no clear examples as to what I am being charged with my alleged error.
Why do you mention God and the Gospel in your works, writing about apologetics, while you do not mind pormoting the idolatry?
Question is what example am I given that I have advocated for idolatry or the promotion of it when I have stood against the subject as clearly outlined by scripture against the idolatry of mary, or the rosary etc.
Are you so blind, not to see that your website is powered by Mantra? (down the site). Or are you so hypocritical? It is enogh to see into your “About” section to see, that it is the lat one. From one side you claim yo want to seemignly help families having someone in a dangerous sect, but from the other you are promoting a part of the other belief system, mantra, well known as being part Hare Krishna sect and used also by the New Age masonic movement. But it is yet not all. Bigger hypocrisy and a lie, that you claim, is that you want to reveal the truth, while simultaneously remaining as “an independent project”, independent from any church.
The Bible does not teach us to be placed under the authority of any church but the church locally must place itself under the authority of Christ and his scriptures, the work is accused by citing a matra but there are no clear examples of what is meant by mantra or where I safe to assume they mean the heresy that has been long held by Protestantism.
The statement below is only repeated from the first point above.
But if it is independent of the Catholic Church, thus it is also indpendent from truth. As the truth is Holy Spirit, living in the heart of a person, not escaping from truth about himself or herself, to forgive from the depth of the heart all wounds and hurts to others and staying in truth about own sins in front of Jesus in a confession before His servant priest. Only if you change your own heart and clean your soul from all dirt of sins in the holy confession sacrament, you are able to see truth. Otherwise it is only cheating – not so much oter people as himself or herself first of all (because you are not able to cheat God as He knows you much better than you know yourself). Be blessed and please come back to the real faith, led by the Holy Spirit in the Holy Romancatholic Church, the only church estabilished by Our Lord Jesus Christ. Servant of Jesus.
The Roman Catholic church was not the only church established by the Jesus of the Bible nor is this person a servant of the Biblical Christ but a servant of the Roman Catholic Jesus.
This is nothing more than Roman Catholic Matra that was reinforced by the line of popes when was the church founded, the church was founded long before the RCC existed we read this in the book of Acts, this is not a statement of fact but a matter of the traditions of the Church of Rome, based on Matthew 16:16-19 in not submitting to the pope is rebellion against God, re-enforcing the Vatican is the one true church founded by Christ and his Apostle Peter, this is nothing more than a side issue a distraction from the core teachings around the catholic faith, it is like my ex-catholic friends said
“Catholics, Mormons and other false religions make a major blunder, when they try and force on people, that salvation is wholly exclusive to only one religious institution, i.e., theirs! Jesus Christ is Saviour for cross-denominational boundaries. Hence it is impossible for any one group or organisation to restrict salvation to their members only. “
The canon of Scripture
The body of Christ, some two hundred years before any church council had been called into session, quoted the New Testament, 87,000 times.
Athanasius lists all 27 NT books in his pastoral letter, and Gregory of Nazianzen lists 26 of them, save Revelation (Rev. H. S Miller, General Biblical Introduction, 1937, p. 191).
Polycarp quotes Matthew, Luke, John, Acts, and ten Pauline epistles.
Clement quotes Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, and six Pauline epistles and Revelation.
Irenaeus quotes all four Gospels, Acts, Pauline epistles, I Peter, I John, Hebrews, Jude, James, and Revelation.
From the above church leaders and Tertullian, we find all 27 New Testament books cited and revered before 200 AD. Plus we have Latin and Syriac versions being used (150-180 AD). Therefore we have a COMPLETE New Testament in circulation, some two hundred years BEFORE any council met to officially ratify this (Miller, p. 133).
The Eucharist
Some early Church leaders interpreted John 6 “eating of His flesh” and “drinking of His blood” as literal interpretations, but this should in no way be considered sound or logical thinking. The Bible states on many occasions how good Godly men erred, so one can be forgiven for comparing some of these same brethren with Biblical saints. However just because they erred, should not cause other believers to make the same mistakes too. Yet sadly man parts of Christendom have perpetuated this error.
“Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment” (Job 32:9).
Church “fathers”
It must also be stated that the first generation of Church leaders, were not the sole custodians of today’s Roman Catholic Church. Those that lived before Constantine and Augustine, were quite different to some of those leaders that preceded them.
Denominations
Whether it is the eastern church or the western church, the body of Christ is quite capable of living in different areas and in different ways, with different doctrinal views, without having to be sneered upon or castigated. There has always been diversity in each local assembly, yet they are still in the one body and Church of the Lord Jesus Christ if they have truly been born again.
Conclusion
It is only by faith alone in the Son of God’s blood atonement that sinners will ever be saved. What does more damage to the body of Christ is when those of a different persuasion try and steal God’s glory, by enslaving ignorant and unlearned people into their system, and subsequently keeping them there indefinitely. When such people eventually find their way out, anathemas/curses are issued on them.
https://excatholicsforchrist.com/one-church/
Going to a Church will not save you, Jesus saves not because salvation is through any church, but solely through Christ alone outside of any church, salvation occurs within our personal lives and resulted in in the outcome of works and not because or by the merit of works. Ephesians 2:8.
We ought to beware of those who corrupt the doctrines of christ like Francis Chan and ought to shun him as far as we can and give no heed to those whose intent is to deceive knowingly or unknowingly. 1 Thess 2
