Andy Hawthorne – The Message Trust
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John 12:43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God. (KJV)
Andy Hawthorne has become a prominent leader among the Neo-Evangelicals.  In general, a neo-evangelical would be defined as one who has taken a “lower view” of Scripture, has developed a more open, inclusiveness spirit toward liberalism, and has become ecumenical in evangelism efforts.
 Is Andy Hawthorne ecumenical ? Well, what does the evidence tell us? Andy Hawthorne founded the Eden Project,  an ecumenical initiative backed by The Salvation Army.  He is currently one of the founders of Hope ’08 another ecumenical, inter-faith project (please refer back to my Hope 08 article “What is Hope ’08“). This clearly makes Andy Hawthorne is ecumenical.
“Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:15 – 16)
According to the Message Trust’s own web site, they are much-loved by the world having the status of  “an award-winning youth charity, well established reputation for being a pioneering organisation with a real passion to improve the lives of young people in Greater Manchester. Driven by Christian values.”
But what version of Christian Value’s is the Message Trust trying to deliver? Is it Christ’s Values or the Values of the so-called “Christian Religion of Cultural relevance”? Who’s teaching is it?
As we see from the groups and individuals the message trust is associated with and promoting, it does not take much to realise that this is pure dominionism.  Here are some of their teachings, followed by a brief explanation by Sandy Simpson.
“Redeeming culture is the never-ending mission of the church.” (Chuck Colson, Breakpoint, KLHT Radio, 1/2/05)
“I was deepening my understanding of what we call the cultural commission, the command to the Church to take dominion and bring righteousness to our culture. (Chuck Colson, God’s Inseparable Commissions, Prison Fellowship, 01/05/2005,)
“Today-some 30 years into my ministry-I have come to believe passionately that all Christians need to take their faith out of the pews and into the trenches. We’ve got to be faithful to the cultural commission to have dominion, to work for Christian values to arrest our worldview slide. (Chuck Colson, Prison Ministry and Worldview: A Match Made in Heaven, Prison Fellowship, 08/29/2004,)
“Gary North, one of the movement’s most vocal proponents, defines Reconstruction in this way: ‘A recently articulated philosophy which argues that it is the moral obligation of Christians to recapture every institution for Jesus Christ.” (Gary North, Backward Christian Soldiers? An Action Manual for Christian Reconstruction (Tyler, Tex: Institute for Christian Economics, 1984),
(Kansas City Prophets/Latter Rain/NAR)
“What is about to come upon the earth is not just a revival, or another awakening, it is a veritable revolution. The vision was given in order to begin to awaken those who are destined to radically change the course, and even the very definition of Christianity.” (Rick Joyner, The Harvest, “Joel’s Army.”)
(Manifest Sons of God/Dominionist,
recently involved in a sex scandal)
“The Church has been foreordained of God to become that people who will become so glorified that we can bring Christ back to the earth. This glorified church must make the earth God’s footstool before Jesus can come again.” (From The Wounded Body of Christ. Earl Paulk, quoted in Jewel Van der Merwe’s book Joel’s Army).
“God literally moves His throne from heaven. When this happens the church is building a chair, a seat, a place for God to come. When is the church going to arise and build a mercy seat according to the pattern of heaven? And He will literally set up His throne, and you will have a throne zone in the midst of the church and some group somewhere is going to build a seat for the glory of God, and the water that flows from that place will eventually cover the earth. The next wave of revival is not going to be like anything that you have ever seen. There will be nothing of man on it or God won’t come to sit. He is tired of breaking chairs that we have built for Him. He is demanding now that we build a mercy-seat.” (Tommy Tenny, Rivermail Archives: Mar.-Apr. 1999, The Glory of God
C. PETER WAGNER
(Head apostle of the NAR)
“The cultural mandate, which some refer to as Christian social responsibility goes as far back as the Garden of Eden. After God created Adam and Eve, He said to them: “Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it, have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing… Both the cultural mandate and the evangelistic mandate are essential parts of biblical mission, in my opinion. Neither is optional. There is a growing consensus on this point in Evangelical circles. This was not true as early as twenty-two years ago when the Berlin World Congress on Evangelism was held in 1966. One of the first Evangelicals to stress the cultural mandate in a public forum was Horace Fenton of the Latin America Mission at the Wheaton Congress on the Church’s Worldwide Mission, also held in 1966. Following that, the social consciousness generated by the social upheavals of the 1960’s brought the cultural mandate to prominence until it was given a relatively high-profile on the platform of the International Congress on World Evangelization at Lausanne in 1974.” (C. Peter Wagner, “On the Cutting Edge of Mission Strategy,” Perspectives on the World Christian Movement, A Reader, Revised Edition (Pasadena: William Carey Library, 1981,1992), pp. D-45-46.)
C. Peter Wagner claims is the new agenda for the churches as of 2004:
See, the problem is, is that Satan has had too much of his way in our society because he has a government! And the only way to overthrow a government is with a government. It won’t happen otherwise. So therefore the government of the church has to get into place in the extended church just like we do have it very well in place, we haven’t reached our goal yet, but it’s very well established in the nuclear church. … These apostles in the workplace are the ones that are going to come into the picture and with them we’ll be open these gates, without them we can have all the prayer meetings we want, all the marches for Jesus we want, all the prayer walking we want, the gates aren’t going to be opened. Because it takes a government to overthrow a government. Gate number one, letter A, the gate of social transformation, the gate of social transformation. … This gate will be opened when we understand about the church in the workplace, that the church has a government, that it takes a government to overthrow a government, and when we understand this, if we renew our minds, if we embrace this paradigm shift, if we see, if we hear what the spirit is saying to the churches, if we recognize ministry in the extended church and government in the extended church, the revival we’ve been praying for is just around the corner. We will see it. …And now I pray for every individual here, before you, who is in the workplace, who tomorrow and in the days to come will be going out to their ministries in the workplace, and I impart to them an anointing, I impart to them an anointing for not seeing a job, but seeing a ministry in the workplace. And I impart an anointing to them and to this whole community to recognize and raise up apostles who will set the church in the workplace in order so that our cities, our communities, our states, and our nations will be transformed for Your glory, in Jesus’ name. (C. Peter Wagner, Arise Prophetic Conference, Gateway Church, San Jose, CA, 10-10-2004)
Jim Laffoon, another “apostle” of the NAR recently stated this:
I’m utterly convinced, as I stand here tonight, that God has raised up this family in the earth to reach “every nation in our generation.” But the ultimate purpose of God is not for us to reach every nation, it is to raise up a generation long after my generation is gone who because they have reached nations can begin to rule nations! … As I look at this nation, as I look at the nations of the world, I’m here to tell you, that before we’re done, we’ll not merely plant a church in every one of the world’s nations, we will study, analyze, and penetrate the cultures that control her. … Before I die, I expect to see an incredible apostolic center in every nation in the earth. Before my children die, I expect they’ll begin to see every culture in those nations begin to change…. We’re raising up a generation of children who I believe if my generation is faithful to reach nations, the next generation can begin to rule nations. It is my passion. (Jim Laffoon (with Rice Broocks), “To Reach and To Rule”, Morning Star Jnternational, Every Nation Churches and Ministries, 2004 World Conference: Every Leader – Every Church – Every Nation, July 15, 2004)
 Sandy Simpson Explains the reasons
to reject this new worldview.
The doctrines of Dominionism are rooted in the earth. Their basis is the (false) teaching that man must take dominion of this earth and change it for the better before Jesus can come. The emphasis, therefore, has shifted from ‘looking up’ to ‘looking around’ to see what can be done to patch up the environment and change society into a more godly one. This scheme is unscriptural and should be rejected as heresy. Following are ten reasons why.
It requires a universal Kingdom of God on earth.
Obviously, in order to alter society and bring in biblical laws for the nations, in order to change man’s habits of greed and violence, there would have to be a world government headed and policed by Restoration Christians. (The “Holy” Roman religion-political empire nearly achieved this in time gone by, but at a high cost – the oppression of the masses, wide scale poverty and ignorance, the disappearance of the Bible texts in the common language, papal abuses, priestly dominion and the slaughter of thousands of dissenters and so-called heretics who refused to bow the knee to Roman dictators in the Church.)
This system requires obedience to Law. If any system of religion is going to be introduced worldwide, amongst many who offer only a token submission to it, obviously that religion must be strongly enforced and governed by rules and regulations. In fact, the religion proposed by Dominionism (and other) Christian movements for world transformation today is one closely modeled on the Old Testament Law. Every part of the world system – law, government, medicine, education etc. – would be ruled by biblical precepts. But the New Testament demonstrates that Law cannot save mankind and that the only hope for man is in justification by faith. The Law has failed to transform mankind and it always will. [Rom 7:6] But Dominionism adherents hope to resurrect it as the basis of a new age of peace and righteousness.
Taking restoration teachings to their logical conclusion, it is clear that nothing less than world Christianisation would work the miracle of planetary salvation. This, say the leaders, would be the ‘Kingdom of Peace and Righteousness’ promised in the Old Testament. However, given the condition of the human heart, and Satan’s plans for world dominion, it is actually the universal reign of terror through Antichrist! In the Word of God, not universal obedience but universal wickedness is forecast before the Coming of Christ, and all nations will follow the satanic plans of the ‘Beast’. [Rev 13:3,4] To set about organising and networking for a New Order and for global dominion is to throw huge parts of the Church into the hands of ‘another Christ’ and ‘another gospel’.
It robs the Jews of their inheritance.
In order to provide biblical proof of their role as earth saviors and law-givers, and in order to support their claim to be the Kingdom of God on earth, Dominionism leaders have to pirate the Old Testament promises of God to the nation of Israel and make them apply to the Church.
They have gone on record as saying that Israel has no further place in God’s future plan for blessing the nations, nor will the ‘kingdom’ promises of the OT come to pass specifically for Israel, but only by and through the Church. The Jews rejected their Messiah, they say, and so forfeited their inheritance. But God, who can never lie nor break His Word, has promised specific material blessings of land, prosperity, nationhood, peace and victory to the literal nation of Israel in the future. These promises have never been fulfilled and can only be fulfilled in the context of a re-gathering and spiritual resurrection of Jews in the literal land of Israel. [Jer 31:35-37] with ultimate fulfillment in the Millennial Kingdom after Christ’s second coming.
It removes awareness of the Return of the Lord.
The emphasis on earthly triumph for the Church and long years of victorious rule to precede the Lord’s Coming removes the need to ‘watch and pray’ and be ready for that Day. Many sensitive Christians are aware that the signs leading up to the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus are being fulfilled in this generation, and that – in fact – the Coming may be very soon indeed. If so, we ought to be on our guard against laxity and deception, as Jesus warned. But Restoration doctrine promises ultimate triumph for the Church instead of the tribulation of the end times prophesied in the Word, and so encourages a careless attitude.
It denies the scriptural prophesies of the end-times.
Because Dominionism teaching places the binding of evil, and the ‘dominion’ of the righteous, at the FIRST coming of the Lord, it radically adjusts our understanding of the book of Revelation and the other prophecies of the End. According to this scheme, the Tribulation, Antichrist, Apostasy and so forth are placed historically in the PAST, or else are made out to be symbolic interpretations of ordinary antagonism against the victorious Church. The Restoration understanding of prophecy is largely POST-millennial. That is, it places the Return of Christ AFTER the reign of righteousness and peace. Therefore, what is now expected is not tribulation but triumph. This is very dangerous, especially as the scripture warns that, before Jesus returns, a world leader claiming to be Messiah will arise. [2 Thess 2:3,4] It may be that Dominionists, unaware of the true prophetic calendar, will accept this man as Christ.
It denies the sovereignty of the Godhead.
Dominionism doctrine claims that Jesus CANNOT return until all His enemies have been put under the feet of the Church, (including death, presumably). His coming is not at the appointed time ordained by God, as scripture says [Acts 1:7] but must wait on the preparations made for Him by the Church, for the world must be evangelised and saved and the Bride must be totally united and without spot or wrinkle when He comes. However, the Bible states that very few will be ready when Jesus comes, and that the purification of the Bride is a work of the Holy Spirit, not Christian leaders. [Luke 18:8/Matt 7:14]
It requires religious unity.
Since the world must be evangelised and cleansed, according to this doctrine, and since this cannot be done by individual churches, it is imperative that all denominations (now including Mormons, eg.) come together to do the work. The plan for World Evangelisation entails an overthrowing of doctrinal differences (such as justification by faith alone) to allow Roman Catholics and liberals to help christianise the World. But the scripture forbids us to work together with unbelievers and heretics. [2 Cor 6:14]
It rests on human ability and wisdom.
Instead of the wisdom and power of the Holy Spirit, the scheme of world restoration calls for the development of man’s social skills and knowledge, organisational ability, qualities of leadership, rhetoric and the ability to dominate adversaries. Dominionists are now being encouraged to take a full part in all areas of the world system in order to change it from within. This is what the Transformation movement is all about, with marketplace apostles, and marketplace Christians, for instance. But Bible Christians were often the poorest and least intelligent, and relied on nothing but the power of God to back their preaching. Their work was to preach the gospel only, and never were Christians told in scripture to change mankind by social action. [1 Cor 2:1-5]
It requires a structured Church system based on human leadership.
In order to establish world dominion, Dominionism teaching must be unvaried and universal, and this cannot be done without the obedience of all its followers. Thus, a system of leadership [discipleship] must be introduced to ensure every Christian is under authority and unable to err from the teaching. This leadership model is the New Apostolic Reformation headed by the International Coalition of Apostles under head “horizontal apostle” C. Peter Wagner. This excludes from the ‘one world kingdom’ all those who disagree with Dominionism teaching. In effect, it disinherits all other Christians from the Body of Christ. Indeed, some Dominionist fellowships teach that their Church is the only valid one, that the door to salvation is through the Church, [not Jesus Christ the Savior!] and that everyone outside of the system is outside of the Kingdom of God.
It replaces Jesus with the Church.
In an effort to strengthen the claims of the Church on earth, as a Kingdom and Authority to be obeyed, Dominionism doctrine has come close to replacing Lord Jesus with His Body. The properties, abilities and authority of Jesus are made over to the visible Body on earth and His functions as Head and Government, Shepherd and King are taken over by apostles (on His behalf, they say!). Then, it becomes the responsibility OF THE CHURCH to destroy the wicked and establish the Kingdom on earth. This is exactly what Word-Faith and Latter Rain/New Apostolic heretics have been teaching for years. Yet this leads to human arrogance and rivalry, and replaces obedience to God with submission to the Church.
It draws from corrupt roots.
What we know today as Dominionism doctrine is a hybrid of Roman Restorationism, Dominionism, Preterism, liberal A-millennialism, Post-millennial eschatology, and Later Rain doctrines. The Latter Rain revivals of the early 20th century introduced an ideal new to Christendom – that of achieving religious unity and a golden age for the Church by means of revelation knowledge and spiritual power. Much more was entailed in the scheme, but this heresy, though largely debunked in the 1950’s, seeded the charismatic movement and linked with other groups to form the Restoration Movement, Latter Rain, etc..
Thus, much current heresy on the “birth of the man-child” and the role of an elite army of saints in taking the nations for God – which came to our present time in the Toronto Blessing, Brownsville, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, and a host of false apostles and prophets on TV- has been able to implant itself most readily in charismatic churches where restoration teachings had already paved the way.
Many have discovered from bitter experience in Dominionism fellowships that behind the smiling faces, camaraderie, loving embraces and victorious praise, there lies a spirit of dominion that will wound and crush any who do not toe the line. An empire-building, self-seeking arrogance pervades much of the Dominionism leadership, and they have proven themselves closed to correction. Greed, corruption, immorality and spiritual abuses have thrived in this climate – and the teaching which focuses so much on the earth as our inheritance had led many to become so in love with this present world as to adopt almost all its values.
Without denying that there are many sincere people who claim to be Christians within this system, it needs to be said most strongly that Dominionism churches are a foundation of sand, and the doctrines taught are unscriptural, unsound and finally heretical where they deny the bodily return of Jesus Christ to earth to rule and judge..
Anyone within the Dominionism system should think very carefully about the dangers to their spiritual walk. Dominionism is heresy and the Bible is clear that we are to reject heresy and heretics (Titus 3:10), mark and avoid false teachers (Rom. 16:17), and prove that we love the Lord by obeying His commands (John 5:10). Our mandate is the same as when Christ ascended until He returns: preach the gospel (Mark 16:15) and disciple believers from all the nations (Matt. 28:19). We are NOT to overthrow the governments of the world, take over businesses, or throw our collective Christian weight around in a bid to take over everything. We are to be light and salt (Matt. 5:13-15) to a dying world (1 Cor. 7:31) and abide till He comes (1 John 2:28). Christians need to get busy witnessing for Christ and drop this Dominionist, Kingdom building rhetoric and planning because if they do not they will be playing right into the hands of the coming Antichrist.
They say  “we help all sorts of young people from all sorts of backgrounds and with all sorts of beliefs.”
This clearly mixes the Message of Christ with a worldview that all roads lead to God and the message behind closed doors is that there is a common ground between faiths. How can we be one with the world and one with Christ when it is clear if there is any other way to heaven, Jesus would not have had to die (Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, than Christ is dead in vain.), yet Andy has rejected the gospel that is not tolerant of other gods, religions and beliefs. Hope 08 states of people from other faiths we  “would not Encourage them to make decisions that would put them in conflict with their family.”
The Scripture says that the Word of God is likened to a sword which is the truth, this causes a division and people must reject their religion and follow Jesus, which often puts them into conflict with their family. Hope 08 even goes to the point where Christians are not to “Ask children or young people to say, sing or prey things that they do not believe or that compromises their own faith.” (Matthew 10:35 – 39 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes [shall be] they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.)
In truth Andy promotes the idea that for the sake of peace we need to look away from our differences and seek for that which unites us.
Anyone who is outside of Christ is in conflict with God, and anyone who is outside of God’s wisdom is a fool. If we are obedient to God this puts us at odds with others, because a Christ centered worldview is not acceptable to a man centered worldview.
The Message Trust gives the world a dose of sugar-coated arsenic. They believe that with a big agenda behind the scenes they  “demonstrate the values we believe in: hope, faith, love, compassion, encouragement, creativity and opportunity. “
The Bible warns us however, (Matthew 7: 21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.)
Here is a little background into Andy Hawthorne from his own story “Dairy of a Dangerous Vision.” Firstly he gives credit to Zarc Porter and Mark Pennells who he credits with establishing “Contemporary Christian Bands” with worldly styles into the public domain. These two people helped Andy Hawthorne in the publication of his autobiography, “A Dairy of a Dangerous Vision.” Closely linked in with Apostate Mike Pilavachi as featured in my article  “Thebandwithnoname, Innervation Trust, Soul Survivor, GOD TV, Hope ’08 and a Ecumenical agenda.”
Andy makes reference to the Salvation Army, as being a commendable charity because of the hard work and through whose example it is claimed people are turning to Christ. This seems laudable on the surface but what happens below the surface? Lets find out.
According to page 12 of his autobiography Andy speaks highly of the Salvation Army and states that the charity has shown that through their actions this is bringing people to Christ. They may be doing good works and by doing so they think this will gain favor from the Lord, but then we find out beneath the surface the Salvation Army compromises the gospel in the name of humanitarian aid. Thus they become futile in their deeds and their Good works are not accounted for, because their compromise is in direct opposition to what God has said.
The Salvation Army and the Freemasons.
The Masonic Lodge Army Shield and the Salvation Army Blue Shield are almost identical;
© Rosslyn Templars
Since we posted this interesting photograph several months ago we have received several inquiries asking what the organisation parading is or was. A number of suggestions have been offered but none of them were correct. We can now that the parade is being led by a Salvation Army Band and the main body is that of the International Order of Good Templars (IOGT). The Order originated in Syracuse, New York State, USA, in 1852. It later spread to many parts of the world including Scotland. It was conceived as a temperance organisation and remains so to this day.
The Freemasons, themselves, announce their involvement with the Salvation Army. The compromise between the Salvation Army and the Freemasonry goes on to this day.
 Masons Answer the Call for Salvation Army (USA)
Staffing the phones for the Salvation Army’s Coats for Kids telethon, officers and members of Lamberton Lodge No. 476, Lancaster, raised $8,620. Picking up on the spirit of giving, two months later the lodges of the 1st Masonic District contributed another $4,000 to the Salvation Army. At work by the phones at WGAL-TV, Lancaster, are the brethren of Lamberton Lodge (l-r): Front Edward R. Lloyd, Chaplain; James E. Gustafson, W.M.; Douglas M. Wiker, then-D.D.G.M.; Richard C. Bledsoe, P.M.; and R. Steven Sturdevant, S.W. Rear Charles E. Landis, P.M.; Lester Turner; Walter R. Mull, P.M.; Charles H. Rahe II, Treas.; and Charles Smithgall, who also is the Mayor of Lancaster.
 The Texas (USA) Salvation Army, lists friends of the Army in their 2004 Partner Recognition
Gallagher Bassett Services
Gardner Marketing Group
Garland Masonic Lodge
Garland Space Center
Gary’s Quality Plumbing
General Electric Company
This also happens in the UK today,  as we can see from the official Freemasonry Magazine PAST ISSUE 28 – FREEMASONRY TODAY quote “FAMILY FESTIVE CONCERT IN GRAND TEMPLE” this is at the Grand Lodge of England London.
“Reading Central Band of the Salvation Army with some of the Chorus“
Reading Central Band of the Salvation Army with The Provincial Grand Master for Cornwall, James Kitson, presented a cheque for £1,000 on behalf of Freemasons in the Province to Sally Taylor, Chief Executive of St Luke’ s Hospice in Plymouth.
On Page 15 of “A Diary of a Dangerous Vision” Andy makes reference to Frank and Deborah Green, who were involved in running Manchester’s first march for Jesus in 1992. March for Jesus was about “taking the church outside,” the problem with this was that it involved being in fellowship with unbelievers. The scripture says (2 Corinthians 6:14 – 16 KJV, Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.)
 Deborah Green is Pastor at Ivy Cottage Church Didsbury working alongside her Husband Frank Green. Deborah Green undermines God himself by putting her self above Christ. If the Head of a man is Christ so the Head of the woman is her husband, for a more in-depth study please see my article the  “Role of Women in the Church”.
On page 109 of the book Andy stated that he helped set up a Soul Survivor event, that was used to “recruit people.” This is called Proselytizing,  Soul Survivor partners with the Roman Catholic Church. An event called “Soul in the City” was started by CASE (Catholic Agency to Support Evanglisation) employing Soul Survivor to organise it. Soul Survivor organised the celebration of a daily morning mass as part of their agreement with CASE.
On page 113 Andy describes being in partnership with Ecumenical/Interfaith organisations such as Youth for Christ and the Salvation Army for recruitment. Later he collaborated with a dangerous group known as  Youth With a Mission (YWAM). YWAM leader, Laurance Singlehurst,  was asked to establish a disipleship scheme for inner-city kids. YWAM is in partnership with Apostate and Showman Benny Hinn.
On page 117 Andy made reference to Apostate  Nicky Gumbel and Co. at HTB (Holy Trinity Brompton.)
In March 2004 Mr Gumbel – along with his wife Pippa and son Jonny – were presented to the Pope by Father Raniero Cantalamessa, Preacher to the Papal Household, at the end of a General Audience in the Paul VI Audience Hall in the Vatican.
‘It was a great honour’, says Nicky Gumbel
After returning from Rome, Nicky Gumbel said:
‘ It was a great honour to be presented to Pope John Paul II, who has done so much to promote evangelisation around the world. We have been enormously enriched by our interaction with Catholics in many countries.
It is a great privilege to meet inspiring leaders from different parts of the church – Catholic, Baptist, Salvation Army, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Methodist, and so many more – and discover that what unites us is infinitely greater than what divides us.
As Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa has pointed out, the battle today is similar to that of the first century. The battle is around the King: Is Jesus a Universal Saviour, or just one among many? Thus, on the crucial issue of our day, we can be united and proclaim this Jesus to a desperately needy world.’
On page 136 and 137 Andy speaks about his involvement with the Apostate and False Prophet  Gerald Coates and “Pioneer.” Gerald Coates  is the founder and leader of Pioneer, he was largely responsible for the  1995 Pensacola Movement in London. Much of what Gerald Coates promotes is nothing more than the New-Age movement  with a “Christian” veneer. (1) According to Gerald Coates, the March (for Jesus) is “a prophetic act” which claims the ground for God “by shifting the spiritual powers that have been allocated in the structures of the nations.” (2) They would gather millions of Christians together with the potential of preaching the gospel to multitudes, and yet hope that somehow souls will be won without the direct preaching of the Word:
(1) Graham Kendrick, Public Praise: Celebrating Jesus on the Streets of the World, “What a March is Not,” Point 5, p. 21.
(2) Gerald Coates, March For Jesus, p. 131, as cited in “Mainstream” Magazine, Winter 1993, (Banner Ministries, Box 23, Belper, Derbys DE56 1QR UK) p. 3
(3) “Our task is to make Jesus attractive and intelligible. Through words and deeds to build bridges of love because human beings are worth it, and in the hope that we might have the rich privilege of sharing our faith with them. In so doing, as people respond, the earth will fill up with reasonable people who have the ability to make peace rather than piano covers, to be faithful rather than promiscuous, to bring heaven rather than hell into the world.”
(3) “Back to Basics,” Gerald Coates, as cited in The Christian Conscience, May 1995, p. 37
Though knowing who Gerald Coates is Andy willingly comes under his influence. The false prophet’s co-worker prophesied over Andy which encouraged him to go ahead with what he entitled Xcelerate with is now called  genetik, a 5 month training program for young people. Much of what is passed through the Message Trust is another road leading people to Rome.
On page 139 Andy gives reference to Dave Connolly who is the pastor at the  Frontline Center. They run cell churches which follow after the  Alpha Course. Having small groups and small churches is not a problem in itself, the problem is where system is devised introducing secret heresies deliberately watering down the message. Their teachings have more in common with New Age teachings where people are instructed to use breathing techniques and empty their minds so that they can enhance their spiritual experience they would like to have with God.
For more information and research on Cell church please goto the following titles,
On Page 142 Andy reveals his social gospel through Message 2000; from doing people’s gardens to removing graffiti from outside houses was better than preaching on street corners, thus forsaking Christ’s commandment to preach to all nations. Apostle Paul stated, 1 Corinthians 9:16 “For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!” yet the very example that Paul had shown is now dismissed. Evangelism is not about doing people’s homes and gardens, being good social workers.
Andy speaks about social action, this problem was outlined by Cecil Andrews as he said  “merely a possible ‘temporal’ impact and not an ‘eternal’ impact.” They generally quote Matthew 25:31-46 to justify this approach: “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 “And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ “
 As Mike Oppenheimer stated, Many have this as their theme and a requirement for a social gospel, they have changed the text to a general principle that is applied to everyone. Jesus’ principle of We are to do unto others as we would have them do unto us is to be our lifestyle but in this rebuke it is more specific. Christians are to help in various ways but this is not our specific mission to solve poverty or disease. Of course, if people are starving they cannot listen to a spiritual message about their soul too well. We should be there for catastrophes such as earthquakes and floods… What of the poverty in the church, are we to feed the world and not the brethren? Isn’t this what Jesus said to do in Mt.25. Unfortunately Mt. 25 is often used for a general humanitarian effort of the church.
Notice the point least of my BRETHREN – primarily the Jews are Jesus brethren and so are believers and this rebuke is mostly centered in the tribulation period.
Jesus sees this as being against him by not doing these things to his brethren feed and clothed Christ is used just as Jesus said to Paul in Acts 9 that he persecuted him by going against his church and arresting and killing his people.
Its general wider application it means – taking care of the brethren means to care for Christians that are homeless or in jail; (inasmuch as you did it to the least of the My brethren, you did it to me), in its primary meaning it has to do with the Jews and believers in the tribulation. This cannot be applied to the nations and people who are unsaved by the context and the meaning of the word brethren and the personal application of “I,” “me” and “you did it to Me.”
Along with the literal application of there actions their would be of necessity be a spiritual one. They gave food this is not just physical food but food for eternal life the word. They gave them water for their thirst again it is not just physical food but the water of life.
The gospel is to the Jew first. When you see organizations claiming to help the Jews back into Israel and they purposely do not give them the gospel they are guilty of this negligence and will be judged accordingly.
Why is it that the Church is required to tend to the unbelievers rather than believers, is not that the example that Jesus shown, when Jesus said ” Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.” our duty is not to the world but to Christ, they talk about the example of Jesus yet they misquote scripture, and read into things that are not their.
If the Gospel is first for the Jew is it not our Job to work hard to reach the Jewish people, rather than the gentiles who are last to receive the Gospel ?
Doing Social Gospel is in fact no Gospel at all, it is simply “secularization.” What we should be aiming for is, as Sandy Simpson put it,  “evangelism had to do with the supernatural salvation of the soul. This they dismissed as of secondary importance. “
Much of this is influenced through men like Tony Campolo, who, like the rest of the ecumenical crowd, preaches a “social” gospel to transform the world rather than transformation of the soul. Universalism teaches that all mankind is saved and that we need to make the “world” a better place to live since we are all going to heaven anyway. Blissful eternity is “guaranteed to all”, they say, so religions need to learn to get along and make the “world” a blissful place.
Campolo has conformed to the world and the world hears him because he is of the world.
On page 142 Andy speaks about his involvement with Nigel Gordon who is the European Director of the Luis Palau Evangelistic Association, and on page 149 Andy speaks about Luis Palau Ministry being invited to be apart of Message 2000. The following shows Andys compromising ways and his rebellion to God, here we examine Luis Palau;
 General Teachings/Activities
– Luis Palau (pronounced pahl-OW), is an Argentinean-born (1934, to Roman Catholic parents) international evangelistic preacher with immense popularity in South and Central America. He claims to have been born-again at age 12, and immigrated to the U.S. in 1960. Palau is the author of 44 books and booklets, and has written more than 100 articles published in Charisma, Christian Herald, Christian Parenting Today, Christian Reader, Christianity Today, Decision, Discipleship Journal, Focus on the Family, Moody, The Plain Truth, Pursuit, World, World Vision, Worldwide Challenge, and many other periodicals. He has been pegged by some to replace the ecumenical Billy Graham as the United States’ pre-eminent evangelist; “the Billy Graham of everywhere” says The Wall Street Journal. (This, of course, was prior to the 11/95 appointment of Graham’s son, Franklin, to replace the retiring Billy.) Palau models his ministry and organization after Graham, being influenced by Graham since 1962, when he served as a translator at a Graham crusade in California. Graham gave Palau money to start his own organization in 1978, the Luis Palau Evangelistic Association (LPEA). Palau raises money for his stadium crusades like Graham also — the responsibility falls upon sponsoring local churches.
– Palau is a graduate and member of the Trustee Board at the neo-evangelical/psychologically oriented Multnomah School of the Bible in Portland, Oregon (now Multnomah Biblical Seminary). He is commonly called “the Billy Graham of South America.” The title is fitting, for he has followed Graham’s new evangelical policies in his crusades and has been willing to join hands with liberals, charismatics, and Roman Catholics. His ministry has not been confined to South America, however. He has had crusades in such diverse places as Aberdeen, Scotland; New Zealand; Managua, Nicaragua; and Peoria, Illinois (New Neutralism II, p. 67).
- Since Palau’s first crusade in 1966, an estimated 14 million people in 69 nations have attended 414 of Palau’s cross-denominational crusades and rallies (now termed “Festivals”) — he has preached on every continent except Antarctica, and was the first evangelist to hold stadium evangelistic meetings in the Soviet Union (1989). In addition, tens of millions more have been exposed to the Palau message through radio and TV broadcasts in 104 nations. His radio programs are broadcast each weekday on more than 500 stations in North, South, and Central America (200 in the U.S.). Palau often purchases television time in cities where he plans stadium crusades, airing a live call-in program called Night Talk with Luis Palau (carried by two national cable networks — the National Empowerment Television Network and the Inspirational Network). Viewers call to discuss their spiritual, family, and other concerns. Palau claims to explain the basic Gospel and e with those who want to trust Jesus Christ. The national program also features taped segments of live TV programs from Palau’s U.S. crusades. [Palau now airs two distinct radio programs — Luis Palau respond and Cruzada, Spanish radio programs broadcast on more than 500 stations throughout Latin America and the United States; and Reaching Your World with Luis Palau, a two-minute daily radio program, which went on the air 1/31/00, broadcast on more than 530 stations in the English-speaking world.] (Source: LPEA Internet website, 8/27/01.) Luis Palau.
Here is an article written by Luis Palau entitled  Who Is God? written 1997 “Luis Palau Responds” article that seems odd to us. See if you agree with this sentence taken from the article: “The bottom line is you can be any religion you want to be, as long as what you believe about God corresponds to reality.” Is this really true? How can a person find Jesus Christ as a Buddhist, as Palau indicates? How can a person find salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone in the Roman Catholic church? How can a person be of ANY religion other than true Christianity, even Judaism, and not acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the Messiah? How does Luis Palau think God views worshipping Him while continuing to worship other gods? No other “religions” own God at all. No religion does. But only Judaism and Christianity worship YHWH. Other religions worship demons. God has revealed Himself to this age through His Only Son, Jesus Christ who is made evident through the body of Christ, the Christian church. You cannot exclude the body of Christ or the Scriptures from the process of coming to the full knowledge of God. It is impossible. These statements by Luis Palau indicate just how far he has slid into ecumencalism and interfaith compromise. (Original location of this file was at: http://www2.gospelcom.net/lpea/archive/lpr/09-11-97.shtml but it has since been taken off the web.)
Again this shows that Andy has no discernment, and goes down the ecumenical route.
Page 151 Andy makes mention of Festival Manchester’s Party in the Park, were he states that he drove the Luis Palau Team and shared their vision they had around young people, that this was a recruitment tool used to try to entice them in to the church buildings, but they wanted to Americanize the message of the cross by using entertainment methods calling it Christian, as he stated he was long to establish partners with the enemies of Christ and compromise with them, and aimed for secular corporate sponsorship to help them with their event, and as Andy said this is purely a business event, he stated that he had sponsorship from Shell Oil, Lookers Sports Store, Irn Bru, Friends Provident Financial Services, B&Q, KPMG Tax and financial services and Yorkshire Bank Society, for publicity reasons, no where in the Bible is this ever taught, Jesus actually said “my kingdom is not of this world, “If we were truly teaching the Gospel the world would reject this.
On page 156 a Public Address firm called WIGWAM, which was started in a Baptist church in Heywood near Bury, was used to set up the rig for Festival Manchester in Heaton Park, Manchester. WIGWAM has, in the past, been employed to do the Sound Systems for big pantomimes in Liverpool and Manchester, also concerts for bands such as Spice Girls, Blue, Westlife and Boyzone.  WIGWAM are in partnership with School of Sound Recording (SRR) which has sent its students to various concerts including  Satanic Rock Priest Marilyn Manson.
 WIGWAM is also partnered with the ecumenical Christians Against Poverty (CAP) Organisation.  CAP work with various heretical groups such as  New Wine,  Healing Rooms,  Soul Survivor’s Momentum amongst others.
On page 164 Andy makes reference to new age mystic and universalist Mother Teresa of Calcutta by recounting an anecdote attributed to her. This is yet another indication of Andy’s total lack of discernment in things spiritual and his attraction for mysticism.  What Andy fails to tell you is that Mother Teresa although being very charitable; yet several months before she died, she made it clear that she only converted Hindus and Muslims to be better Hindus and Muslims; she sent those people to hell without Christ in the name of being charitable.
On page 181 & 182 Andy recounts a very telling incident regarding his mother who speaks of hearing a message from her dead brother-in-law to her recently deceased husband. Andy uses this story to justify his projects. Such incidents indicate a leaning towards Spiritualism and Necromancy (communication with the departed,) which are both roundly condemned in both the  Old and New Testaments of the Bible.
 Andy has close ties and a working relationship with the aspiring mega church World Harvest Bible Church (WHBC). WHBC pastors Matt and Julie Beemer are directly accountable to  Rhema Ministerial Association International (RMAI).  The RMAI was founded by Kenneth Hagin Jr. Son of false prophet and prosperity guru and apostate  the late Kenneth E Hagin.